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There are many different reasons why an ADSL connection is misbehaving. Most of the time they can be narrowed down to a very small number of problems. This guide will help you determine where the problem might be.
There are many different reasons why an ADSL connection is misbehaving. Most of the time they can be narrowed down to a very small number of problems. This guide will help you determine where the problem might be.


== No connection at all ==
== Problems ==

=== No connection at all ===


The first thing to do is to check the ADSL / SYNC light on the router. Normally this is lit when the router establishes synchronization with the exchange, and sometimes flashed randomly when there is activity on the line. Periodic flashing usually means the router is trying to connect to the exchange, so if the router is not connected to the exchange, there may eb a physical fault on the line. Using an analogue handset check for a dial tone, and make a call. If there is no dial tone, or noise on the line, report it as a line problem to your telephone line provider, as it isn't an ADSL problem, but a line problem, and is the responsibility of your line provider.
The first thing to do is to check the ADSL / SYNC light on the router. Normally this is lit when the router establishes synchronization with the exchange, and sometimes flashed randomly when there is activity on the line. Periodic flashing usually means the router is trying to connect to the exchange, so if the router is not connected to the exchange, there may eb a physical fault on the line. Using an analogue handset check for a dial tone, and make a call. If there is no dial tone, or noise on the line, report it as a line problem to your telephone line provider, as it isn't an ADSL problem, but a line problem, and is the responsibility of your line provider.
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If neither of these resolved the problem, it may be a [[ADSL_Problems#Wiring_Problems|wiring fault]].
If neither of these resolved the problem, it may be a [[ADSL_Problems#Wiring_Problems|wiring fault]].


== Dropping the connection and reconnecting automatically ==
=== Dropping the connection and reconnecting automatically ===


If your ADSL connection is repeatedly dropping it's connection and reconnected a couple of minutes later, it is most likely caused by [[ADSL_Problems#Wiring_Problem|faulty wiring]] or [[ADSL_Problems#Interference|interference]].
If your ADSL connection is repeatedly dropping it's connection and reconnected a couple of minutes later, it is most likely caused by [[ADSL_Problems#Wiring_Problem|faulty wiring]] or [[ADSL_Problems#Interference|interference]].
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If all the lights on the router turn off and turn on again, then there is a power problem. Either the router or it's power supply is faulty, the voltage to the socket (and maybe the whole building) is fluctuating, the electrical wiring is dangerously faulty, or a massive amount of interference is causing the router to reset. If there are other symptoms at the same time, this will help eliminate the first possibility. Trying a spare router would also help eliminate this. The second possibility, if building-wide would also produce other symptoms. Other computers resetting, lights momentarily dimming, florescent tubes restarting... With the third, switching the router to another socket or ring main would stop the problem (but '''please''' get the wiring professionally checked as it might be the start of a catastrophic problem). For the fourth, try the suggestions in [[ADSL_Problems#Interference|Interference]].
If all the lights on the router turn off and turn on again, then there is a power problem. Either the router or it's power supply is faulty, the voltage to the socket (and maybe the whole building) is fluctuating, the electrical wiring is dangerously faulty, or a massive amount of interference is causing the router to reset. If there are other symptoms at the same time, this will help eliminate the first possibility. Trying a spare router would also help eliminate this. The second possibility, if building-wide would also produce other symptoms. Other computers resetting, lights momentarily dimming, florescent tubes restarting... With the third, switching the router to another socket or ring main would stop the problem (but '''please''' get the wiring professionally checked as it might be the start of a catastrophic problem). For the fourth, try the suggestions in [[ADSL_Problems#Interference|Interference]].


== Dropping the connection and not reconnecting automatically ==
=== Dropping the connection and not reconnecting automatically ===


There are a number of reasons the router cannot re-establish an Internet connection without the router being turned off and on again. The most likely reason for this is that the underlying connection to the exchange has not dropped, and is still active. This means that the router cannot see anything wrong. The main cause of this is something called a ''stale session''. This is most often caused when a piece of equipment upstream of the exchange end of your ADSL line is reset or replaced. It therefore doesn't know about your router, as the connection predates it's database. When your router is rebooted, the connection information is entered into the remote equipment's database, and the connection is re-established.
There are a number of reasons the router cannot re-establish an Internet connection without the router being turned off and on again. The most likely reason for this is that the underlying connection to the exchange has not dropped, and is still active. This means that the router cannot see anything wrong. The main cause of this is something called a ''stale session''. This is most often caused when a piece of equipment upstream of the exchange end of your ADSL line is reset or replaced. It therefore doesn't know about your router, as the connection predates it's database. When your router is rebooted, the connection information is entered into the remote equipment's database, and the connection is re-established.
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It is also possible that there was been a fault in the authentication mechanism when the connection dropped. Although most routers will continue indefinitely to log in to establish your Internet connection, after a large number of attempts (~1000) the system will lock the router out and since only a reboot will reset the counter, even when the problem is fixed the router can no longer reconnect automatically.
It is also possible that there was been a fault in the authentication mechanism when the connection dropped. Although most routers will continue indefinitely to log in to establish your Internet connection, after a large number of attempts (~1000) the system will lock the router out and since only a reboot will reset the counter, even when the problem is fixed the router can no longer reconnect automatically.


== Slow Connection ==
=== Slow Connections ===


By this we mean a you are not getting even close to your expected download or upload speed. There are three main areas that could be causing the problem. Start faultfinding by getting baseline result from a speed test site. Try [http://www.speedtest.net/ WWW.SPEEDTEST.NET] or [http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html WWW.THINKBROADBAND.COM].
By this we mean a you are not getting even close to your expected download or upload speed. There are three main areas that could be causing the problem. Start faultfinding by getting baseline result from a speed test site. Try [http://www.speedtest.net/ WWW.SPEEDTEST.NET] or [http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html WWW.THINKBROADBAND.COM].
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If during all of the above tests the speed test results remain reasonably consistent, then your connection speed may be limited by the ISP. All broadband connections have a ''contention'' ratio. This is the percentage of the bandwidth you are entitled. Some ISP's average it out, some rate limit. In other words, if you have a 2mb ADSL line, with a 50:1 contention ratio, you are only guaranteed a speed or 2mb divided by 50, or about 40kb/s, which is slower than a modem. The original idea was that the likelihood of 50 people all downloading a web page at exactly the same time meant that you would get your 2mb/s for a short burst, and then someone else would use it while you were reading the page. These days, more and more people are streaming Internet Radio and TV, and so the average usage is creeping up, placing presure on the ISP who is buying the bandwidth in bulk. The more bandwidth you use, the more they have to charge you. If you are on a low tariff, they may well slow you down by rate limiting your connection. They will also claim that your speed test is not ''admissible'' as evidence as they cannot control the speed outside their network. This is true, so ask them for the location of an internal speed test web page (or ask them to carry out one on your behalf).
If during all of the above tests the speed test results remain reasonably consistent, then your connection speed may be limited by the ISP. All broadband connections have a ''contention'' ratio. This is the percentage of the bandwidth you are entitled. Some ISP's average it out, some rate limit. In other words, if you have a 2mb ADSL line, with a 50:1 contention ratio, you are only guaranteed a speed or 2mb divided by 50, or about 40kb/s, which is slower than a modem. The original idea was that the likelihood of 50 people all downloading a web page at exactly the same time meant that you would get your 2mb/s for a short burst, and then someone else would use it while you were reading the page. These days, more and more people are streaming Internet Radio and TV, and so the average usage is creeping up, placing presure on the ISP who is buying the bandwidth in bulk. The more bandwidth you use, the more they have to charge you. If you are on a low tariff, they may well slow you down by rate limiting your connection. They will also claim that your speed test is not ''admissible'' as evidence as they cannot control the speed outside their network. This is true, so ask them for the location of an internal speed test web page (or ask them to carry out one on your behalf).


== Wiring Problems ==
== Solutions ==

=== Wiring Problems ===


If your broadband speed has recently dropped, it may be because of a wiring problem. This problem can be within your own premises, or outside, and this makes it tricky to resolve.
If your broadband speed has recently dropped, it may be because of a wiring problem. This problem can be within your own premises, or outside, and this makes it tricky to resolve.
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If the problem has not disappeared, then the next thing to to it to get the ISP to conduct some line tests, as there is a chance the line problem is outside your premises. It may well be a bad joint in a street junction box, or damage during some street works. Just because nothing has changed within your office or house does not mean that nothing has happened in the handful of miles to your local exchange.
If the problem has not disappeared, then the next thing to to it to get the ISP to conduct some line tests, as there is a chance the line problem is outside your premises. It may well be a bad joint in a street junction box, or damage during some street works. Just because nothing has changed within your office or house does not mean that nothing has happened in the handful of miles to your local exchange.


== Interference ==
=== Interference ===


ADSL working by sending and received high frequencies down the same line as your telephone. Just as you can get interference on voice calls, these will also interfere with the ADSL signal. Remember those old stories about phones ringing every time somebody ran a bath? Those sorts of wiring problems also affect ADSL. So if you are getting strange intermittent problems with your ADSL line, then they may be caused by interference.
ADSL working by sending and received high frequencies down the same line as your telephone. Just as you can get interference on voice calls, these will also interfere with the ADSL signal. Remember those old stories about phones ringing every time somebody ran a bath? Those sorts of wiring problems also affect ADSL. So if you are getting strange intermittent problems with your ADSL line, then they may be caused by interference.


Any electrical signal can be disrupted by another if powerful enough, or close enough. An arc welder throws out a burst of energy strong enough to cause CRT monitors to flicker over 20 ft away, even through walls. Mobile phone shave to be able to contact a mast up to 20 miles away, so if your ADSL line drops every time your mobile rings, maybe check how close the ADSL phone cable is to where you normally leave your phone.
Any electrical signal can be disrupted by another if powerful enough, or close enough. An arc welder throws out a burst of energy strong enough to cause CRT monitors to flicker over 20 ft away, even through walls. Mobile phone should to be able to contact a mast up to 20 miles away, so if your ADSL line drops every time your mobile rings, maybe check how close the ADSL phone cable is to where you normally leave your phone.


Arc and fluorescent lights can interfere with the signal, even if they are not in your own premises, as long as their cabling is close enough to the telephone line. Guidelines say that you should not run a telephone cable and an electrical cable in parallel as the electrical cable will induce a current in the telephone cable. They should be a good foot away from each other.
Arc and fluorescent lights can interfere with the signal, even if they are not in your own premises, as long as their cabling is close enough to the telephone line. Guidelines say that you should not run a telephone cable and an electrical cable in parallel as the electrical cable will induce a current in the telephone cable. They should be a good foot away from each other.
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If none of the above seems to apply, follow the suggestions in [[ADSL_Problems#Wiring_Problems|Wiring Problems]] to see if it helps. Even a cable that doesn't go anywhere can behave like an aerial, so unplugging any old cables could make the difference.
If none of the above seems to apply, follow the suggestions in [[ADSL_Problems#Wiring_Problems|Wiring Problems]] to see if it helps. Even a cable that doesn't go anywhere can behave like an aerial, so unplugging any old cables could make the difference.


== Links ==


=== Useful Pages ===
=== Weird Problems reported in the press ===
* [http://www.bt.com/consumerFaultTracking/ BT Line and broadband problems page]
* [http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm KITZ: Improve your adsl broadband connection speed]


=== Other People's Weird Problems ===
Just in case you thought we are making all this up...
Just in case you thought we are making all this up...


*[http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/apr/10/energy-saving-lightbulbs-virgin-media]
* [http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/apr/10/energy-saving-lightbulbs-virgin-media The strange case of the energy-saving light bulbs and Virgin Media]
* [http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=650036 Phone ringing people by itself]
* [http://www.windowsbbs.com/hardware/71443-strange-issues-wireless-router-ups.html Router being reset by phone line surge]
* [http://broadbandforum.in/bsnl-broadband/58767-bsnl-broadband-have-strange-problem/ Nightime broadband problem]
* [http://tldp.org/HOWTO/archived/BTI-PPP/x396.html#AEN436 There are strange noises on the telephone line when I pick up the phone]
* [http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-broadband-help/36098-internet-phone-problem.html ADSL works but phone doesn't]

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Latest revision as of 20:44, 29 August 2015

There are many different reasons why an ADSL connection is misbehaving. Most of the time they can be narrowed down to a very small number of problems. This guide will help you determine where the problem might be.

Problems

No connection at all

The first thing to do is to check the ADSL / SYNC light on the router. Normally this is lit when the router establishes synchronization with the exchange, and sometimes flashed randomly when there is activity on the line. Periodic flashing usually means the router is trying to connect to the exchange, so if the router is not connected to the exchange, there may eb a physical fault on the line. Using an analogue handset check for a dial tone, and make a call. If there is no dial tone, or noise on the line, report it as a line problem to your telephone line provider, as it isn't an ADSL problem, but a line problem, and is the responsibility of your line provider.

If the sync light is on, log in to the router and check the status page. It may have a log file that will tell you what is going on. Your ISP will also be able to tell if the router is logging in to their end. They will also be able to tell if is using the wrong password. If they cannot see what is going on the user name may be wrong.

If neither of these resolved the problem, it may be a wiring fault.

Dropping the connection and reconnecting automatically

If your ADSL connection is repeatedly dropping it's connection and reconnected a couple of minutes later, it is most likely caused by faulty wiring or interference.

Start by gathering as much information as you can of the dropouts. Can you see a pattern emerging. Does it always happen at the same time each day, or when something else happens, such as dusk, or a light being turned on, or the lights dimming momentarily?

Next, try and watch the ADSL or SYNC light on the router. If it goes out, then starts to flash slowly, (usually five times), then flash quickly (also usually five times) then turn solid, then the connection is dropping to the exchange, and the router is having to re-establish a connection before it logs in again. Carry out the procedures detailed in Wiring Problem, and if this does not fix the problem, call the ISP and ask them to carry out some line tests. If these turn up negative, try the suggestions in Interference.

If all the lights on the router turn off and turn on again, then there is a power problem. Either the router or it's power supply is faulty, the voltage to the socket (and maybe the whole building) is fluctuating, the electrical wiring is dangerously faulty, or a massive amount of interference is causing the router to reset. If there are other symptoms at the same time, this will help eliminate the first possibility. Trying a spare router would also help eliminate this. The second possibility, if building-wide would also produce other symptoms. Other computers resetting, lights momentarily dimming, florescent tubes restarting... With the third, switching the router to another socket or ring main would stop the problem (but please get the wiring professionally checked as it might be the start of a catastrophic problem). For the fourth, try the suggestions in Interference.

Dropping the connection and not reconnecting automatically

There are a number of reasons the router cannot re-establish an Internet connection without the router being turned off and on again. The most likely reason for this is that the underlying connection to the exchange has not dropped, and is still active. This means that the router cannot see anything wrong. The main cause of this is something called a stale session. This is most often caused when a piece of equipment upstream of the exchange end of your ADSL line is reset or replaced. It therefore doesn't know about your router, as the connection predates it's database. When your router is rebooted, the connection information is entered into the remote equipment's database, and the connection is re-established.

It is also possible that there was been a fault in the authentication mechanism when the connection dropped. Although most routers will continue indefinitely to log in to establish your Internet connection, after a large number of attempts (~1000) the system will lock the router out and since only a reboot will reset the counter, even when the problem is fixed the router can no longer reconnect automatically.

Slow Connections

By this we mean a you are not getting even close to your expected download or upload speed. There are three main areas that could be causing the problem. Start faultfinding by getting baseline result from a speed test site. Try WWW.SPEEDTEST.NET or WWW.THINKBROADBAND.COM.

Now, the first place to look is in the connection status page of the web interface of the router. When the router negotiates with your local telephone exchange, it will agree a best speed. This is the fastest error free speed that the line between the router and the exchange will support. This is usually determined during the first couple of weeks of a new connection, but can be renegotiated at any time by the exchange. This is what is called rate adaptive, and is why many ADSL connections have speed ratings as up to.., because if are were next door to the exchange that is what you would get. This information will say something like 448 Kbps Upstream, 6112 Kbps Downstream. Compare these numbers to your speed test. If they are very similar then that is the fastest speed your current connection can sustain. That is not to say that it cannot be improved, but that will depend on a number of factors. If you know that your line has been considerably faster in the past, then there may be a problem with the wiring somewhere. See Wiring Problems. However, if you are 5km from the local exchange, then that is probably the best you can get, and you may have to consider alternative technology to get a faster connection.

If the ADSL router says its connection to the exchange is much faster than the speed test result, the next place to look is if anything else on the local network is hogging the connection. Many routers have an ADSL activity light. If you shut down all of the computers on the local network and you still see a considerable amount of activity on the line, then maybe someone has piggybacked on your network. Consider disabling any wireless access points and trying the test again. Remember that there are people who would rather not have their on-line activities traced back to them, and an unsecured network is a real treat, as it will be your door the Police come knocking on. If the ADSL activity light stops flashing when all the computers are turned off, try turning them on one at a time, and allowing them enough time to fully start before moving on the the next. There are many file sharing programs that will use an idle computer to download or upload files. Older versions of BBC iPlayer used a distributed network of everybody's PCs to ease the load on their own servers, until people enough complained about it. You may also have a computer infected with malware sending out spam to lots of people. All of this could be taking up bandwidth.

If during all of the above tests the speed test results remain reasonably consistent, then your connection speed may be limited by the ISP. All broadband connections have a contention ratio. This is the percentage of the bandwidth you are entitled. Some ISP's average it out, some rate limit. In other words, if you have a 2mb ADSL line, with a 50:1 contention ratio, you are only guaranteed a speed or 2mb divided by 50, or about 40kb/s, which is slower than a modem. The original idea was that the likelihood of 50 people all downloading a web page at exactly the same time meant that you would get your 2mb/s for a short burst, and then someone else would use it while you were reading the page. These days, more and more people are streaming Internet Radio and TV, and so the average usage is creeping up, placing presure on the ISP who is buying the bandwidth in bulk. The more bandwidth you use, the more they have to charge you. If you are on a low tariff, they may well slow you down by rate limiting your connection. They will also claim that your speed test is not admissible as evidence as they cannot control the speed outside their network. This is true, so ask them for the location of an internal speed test web page (or ask them to carry out one on your behalf).

Solutions

Wiring Problems

If your broadband speed has recently dropped, it may be because of a wiring problem. This problem can be within your own premises, or outside, and this makes it tricky to resolve.

The first thing to do is to check the audible quality of the line. You must never forget that fundamentally the line is an analogue telephone line. That is what is was designed to do, and that is why you are paying a monthly line rental. All ADSL does is piggyback on the voice line. It uses audio frequencies that are too high for us to hear, but any noise on the line that you can hear (crackles, pops, or pigeons (a strange sort of cooing sound...)) will also interfere with the ADSL signal. If there is any sort of noise, you must report it to the telephone line provider. The line (and it's quality) is their responsibility (a least until it gets to the master socket). Once the line noise problem is resolved, reboot the router and test again. Remember that the local exchange may need to optimise the line speed again, so even if you get the speed back, the line may reset itself a number of times over the following couple of weeks, and you will notice that the router status page will report different speeds as it hunts for the best.

If the line sounds okay, try disconnecting every telephone device on the line, and plug the router into the master socket. Once the router has booted up and connected, check the line speed on the status page. If it is better, the fault lies with one on the devices you unplugged. If it hasn't, try removing the front panel of the master socket (if it is a proper master socket it will have a front panel with a BT plug that when unplugged will disconnect the rest of the house wiring). Plug the router into the back of the master socket and try again. If the problem has disappeared then there is something hard wired, such as an alarm, that does not have a filter, or a wiring fault.

If the problem has not disappeared, then the next thing to to it to get the ISP to conduct some line tests, as there is a chance the line problem is outside your premises. It may well be a bad joint in a street junction box, or damage during some street works. Just because nothing has changed within your office or house does not mean that nothing has happened in the handful of miles to your local exchange.

Interference

ADSL working by sending and received high frequencies down the same line as your telephone. Just as you can get interference on voice calls, these will also interfere with the ADSL signal. Remember those old stories about phones ringing every time somebody ran a bath? Those sorts of wiring problems also affect ADSL. So if you are getting strange intermittent problems with your ADSL line, then they may be caused by interference.

Any electrical signal can be disrupted by another if powerful enough, or close enough. An arc welder throws out a burst of energy strong enough to cause CRT monitors to flicker over 20 ft away, even through walls. Mobile phone should to be able to contact a mast up to 20 miles away, so if your ADSL line drops every time your mobile rings, maybe check how close the ADSL phone cable is to where you normally leave your phone.

Arc and fluorescent lights can interfere with the signal, even if they are not in your own premises, as long as their cabling is close enough to the telephone line. Guidelines say that you should not run a telephone cable and an electrical cable in parallel as the electrical cable will induce a current in the telephone cable. They should be a good foot away from each other.

Microwave ovens operate on a very similar frequency to Bluetooth and some of the WiFi bands, so having a wireless router next to one could cause it to reset. If this is happening, I would also getting the oven looked at as its shielding may be failing.

If none of the above seems to apply, follow the suggestions in Wiring Problems to see if it helps. Even a cable that doesn't go anywhere can behave like an aerial, so unplugging any old cables could make the difference.

Links

Useful Pages

Other People's Weird Problems

Just in case you thought we are making all this up...